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posted
06/20/09 12:28 PM
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06/20/09 12:34 PM
The Lookout (formerly Artemis) Opens Today
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Drunken revelry RULES!
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| As a neighbor of The Lookout, I'm thrilled to have my nights punctuated by the drunken shouting and general clamor from its back patio. Because a quiet residential neighborhood is just so boring, you know? I'm happy to sacrifice my peace and quiet so that Oscar and Boris can have their bar. Thanks, guys! | |
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sleepless in seattle
7 months ago
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RE: Drunken revelry RULES!
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Um, yes, it does rule. I live across the street from the Lookout, and the midnight noise is a bit more than I'm used to... but we'll get used to it, just like we're used to the guy with the squeaky brakes that leaves every SINGLE night at 11pm, and the stupid robin that starts tweeting at 3:30am. It's the city! It's lively. If you want quiet, move to Juanita. Full disclosure -- Oscar's been a buddy of mine for a couple of years. More disclosure -- I'll be going to the Lookout a lot, but I usually go to bed by 11pm, 'cuz my life is dull. So it ain't me makin' all that racket! |
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Uncle Vinny
7 months ago
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oh come on
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I would like to state that I am in now way affiliated with The Lookout, just a person who lives in the neighborhood who is happy to see it coming alive. To the person upset that there is noise coming from the bar, here is what I have to say: YOU LIVE IN A FREAKING CITY. If you are so upset about noise in the neighborhood MOVE. Also, just be thankful that the bars in Seattle close at 2am. |
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NOT OK
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Aside from this new bar, and a couple of daytime-only businesses, that part of Capitol Hill is entirely residential, and therefore I think that "Sleepless in Seattle" is entirely justified in expecting it to be quiet at night. The city has a noise ordinance which specifies a significant fine for noise that is "clearly audible at 75 feet" (after 10PM weekdays, 11PM weekends), and I encourage "sleepless" to call 911 when this is happening...otherwise it will continue to be a problem. It amazes me that people justify their selfishness by saying that city living is inherently noisy. If you want to make noise late at night, at least do it in a commercial district. |
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RE: NOT OK
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| So lets see... that means by your standard that the Redwood should be shut down. Or the Bottleneck. Maybe we should shut down The Roanoke while we are at it oh and the Hide Out definitely shut that wonderful bar down. while we are doing that lets just make sure that no new bars can open up period, EVER. Screw you. You live in a major city. There is going to be noise. I live next to a bar and I have learned to deal with it. I suggest you invest in a fan to drown out the noise. | |
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RE: NOT OK
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"and I encourage "sleepless" to call 911 when this is happening" http://www.entertonement.com/clips/zsktbcmnkx--Noise-Complai |
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Seriously, hearing screaming bigmouths all night are why we live in a city
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Hey Uncle Vinny, njoy, and eh, You assume that my original comment is ironic. But it's not! I live in a city PRECISELY so that I can be awakened by drunken jackasses yelling outside my window at 2 in the morning like I did just now. I mean, why else would I move to a once-quiet residential street? All right thinking people KNOW that if you live ANYWHERE in a city, you have obviously abandoned any hope of sleeping before 2:30 AM. Because we're all unemployed slackers like eh. Nevertheless, I appreciate calhoun's very informative post about the Seattle noise ordinance. If I ever get bored by the noisy Lookout dopes next door, I can entertain myself by calling 911 and watching the fun as the cops join the party. Every noisy night! The Lookout, indeed! "LOOKOUT -- the cops are here again!" Move to Juanita, Vinny?? What fun is that? |
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Relevant section of the Seattle noise ordinance
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Regarding Calhoun's earlier comment about the Seattle noise ordinance, here is the relevant section: SMC 25.08.500 Public disturbance noises. It is unlawful for any person knowingly to cause or make, or for any person in possession of property knowingly to allow or originate from the property, unreasonable noise which disturbs another,... "Unreasonable noise" shall include the following sounds or combination of sounds: E. Loud and raucous, and frequent, repetitive, or continuous sounds made by the amplified or unamplified human voice between the hours of ten (10:00) p.m. and seven (7:00) a.m. The content of the speech shall not be considered against any person in determining a violation of this subsection;... This useful bit of information is found here: http://clerk.ci.seattle.wa.us/~scripts/nph-brs.exe?s1=25.08&. Just in case any other Lookout neighbors would like to phone the SPD. |
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sleepless in seattle
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living in a city is no excuse for rudeness
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Uncle Vinny, Jjoy, and Eh: I tend to think that since we live in a city -- particularly one in which most people do not close their windows and run air conditioning -- we need to be extra careful about making noise at night, since there are so many people within earshot, and since the majority of them sleep at night. Here in the city, we share our space, and things work a lot better when we're considerate of each other. Even if everybody is extra-quiet because we know there are a hundred people within earshot, there's going to be more noise here in the city than there would be elsewhere. Most of us accept *that* noise as unavoidable. But that's not the sort of noise we're talking about here. This noise is avoidable. Its cost is entirely absorbed by the bar's neighbors. Its benefit is felt entirely by the bar and its patrons. That's not a very neighborly situation. If you don't like keeping things quiet *outside* your home or place of business after 10 or 11 p.m. so your neighbors can sleep (remember, you can make all the noise you like *inside* as long as you close the windows and put up adequate sound insulation), you probably should go live or operate your business in the sticks where you can make all the noise you want because your neighbors aren't nearby. You live in a major city. There are going to be lots of people relatively close to you trying to sleep at night. |
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