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Budget cuts loom for Seattle Parks: Volunteer Park Conservatory could be victim
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firework precedent
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surely if the good people of seattle can rally to save a half hour fireworks spectacle, we will somehow save the parks, right?
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April 05, 2010
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RE: firework precedent
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Private donations vs. shrinking tax dollars.
Not the same pot of money. The fiscal problem of cities, counties and states is real. Less money, hard choices. I can see cutbacks of service, but not closing parks, yet. |
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April 05, 2010
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priorities?
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My rant: WHY would we reduce/close/ruin THE crown gem of Capitol Hill, Volunteer Park and the conservatory...while starting a lame park project that would have nowhere NEAR the beauty, history, charm, impact of Volunteer Park. (the newly planned Federal/Mercer "park") I live right there. I would ANY DAY rather walk over to Volunteer Park in all of its majestic beauty than hang out in a square city block that probably should be used as housing to help densify the neighborhood. The model should be urban density surrounded by gorgeous parks for all to go to and use. IMHO, city block parks just aren't that pretty or exciting.
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April 05, 2010
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RE: priorities?
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Agreeded - pocket parks are usually nothing special. In fact, they get quite run down and neglected.
Lack of focus to not do well what we already have? |
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April 05, 2010
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RE: priorities?
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As with all city departments, funding is not just in one giant pot. The funding for the Federal/Republican acquisition was made possible through the 2008 Parks Levy. This levy, along with the 2000 Parks Levy, was a set of specific projects that voters approved, including all of the ongoing projects listed above. The city can't simply take this money that voters approved for one thing and use it on something else.
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April 05, 2010
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RE: priorities?
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I can appreciate that there are different budgets from which operations and acquisitions are funded by.
But let's understand one thing. There is only one 'pot' from which these budgets are funded: Taxpayers. Let's properly fund what we have instead of getting too big for our britches. |
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April 05, 2010
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Beloved Conservatory
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The thought of losing the Conservatory at Volunteer Park literally brings tears to my eyes.
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April 05, 2010
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RE: Beloved Conservatory
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I totally agree - this would be a tragic loss. Leave feedback - I just left a feedback on the Parks on-line form! The Parks Department needs to hear from the people!
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April 05, 2010
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Cal Anderson Park Alliance
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The Cal Anderson Park Alliance does not receive "marching orders" from Seattle Parks & Recreation, nor do they tell us "how to proceed." What I said was that CAPA "will work with Parks to the extent we can, as an event and program-planning organization, to keep Cal Anderson Park safe and accessible."
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April 05, 2010
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Please write the Parks Department
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If you get a chance, can you please submit a comment to Seattle Parks Department expressing that they should not close the Conservatory: http://www.seattle.gov/parks/contact/Form.asp. I wrote them this morning and they immediately wrote me back, so they are listening to feedback. I also wrote the Cap Hill Chamber of Commerce to get them involved. Perhaps this may all be in vain, but at least we can go down fighting for one the real treasures of our neighborhood.
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RE: Please write the Parks Department
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Thank you for sharing your experience with the parks department. It convinced me to do the same thing, and ask my friends to contribute as well.
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April 05, 2010
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A bit premature
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This seems similar to the uproar over the library funding, when people thought the Capitol Hill library would be closed forever and instead we actually got increased hours.
Just like all city departments, parks is going through a severe funding crisis. This means that they now need to figure out how they can most efficiently use less money. I don't know the details of the parks budget but if they are looking at minimizing the Conservatory hours it probably means that the operating cost per visitor is extremely high. (The probability of them closing it permanently just before its 100th Anniversary and while they continue to renovate the historic structure seems insanely low.) I also think it is important to look at this in a citywide context. It isn't like Volunteer Park and Capitol Hill are being targeted disproportionately for cuts. As Mr. Hammerstad says, "everything is on the table" and if the conservatory needs to be closed three or four days a week so that other community centers and parks can remain partially open I think that is fair; we all need to be sacrificing. I appreciate the article bringing public attention to the looming budget crisis and encouraging citizens to stay involved as the process moves forward. But I think it could have done without the scare tactics about the conservatory. We should have faith in the Parks Department's ability to make equitable cuts and to ensure that all Seattle citizens can get the most out of our green spaces even in these difficult financial times. |
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April 05, 2010
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... reality intrudes
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This post speaks to the rather trusting nature of the poster. You trust city bureaucrats to have a clear vision and a clear and focused perspective --- do so at your own peril, or rather the peril of the things you love about the city..
They don't ... have that focus. Strong public outcry pulls them up short all the time. History tells us the city wanted to tear down the public market years ago. Think about that Josh. |
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April 06, 2010
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Conservatory is part of our Cultural Fabric
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As a native Seattlite I am astonished to hear the City would even consider cutting funding to the operations of the Volunteer Park Conservatory - let alone entertain the idea of shuttering it. That would be just as damaging to our cultural fabric as tearing down Pioneer Square or ripping out the Pike Place Market. Remember the outrage when the Pergola was damaged? That is nothing compared to this alleged threat. It would be a shameful thing to waste what little we have in the way of history in this beautiful city. Truly a grievous mistake.
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April 05, 2010
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Seattle Budget Priorities
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I heard recently on NPR locally (KPLU) a story highlighting a City program funding "artist in residence" for an architectural firm that had the "artist" on hands and knees running blue painter's masking tape throughout their offices... This is a private business having this stuff done on public money and we don't have enough money for public parks. I guess we get the gov't we deserve.
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April 05, 2010
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I added this to the Virtual Suggestion Box
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The Mayors office started a virtual suggestion box. . . I added a suggestion about saving the conservatory. People can click on the link here:
http://www.ideasforseattle.org/forums/27772-city/suggestions |
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April 05, 2010
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RE: I added this to the Virtual Suggestion Box
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Done, thanks.
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April 06, 2010
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Conservatory and other Parks
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One of the most acknowledged attributes of Seattle is its beautiful and welcoming parks. It will be truly a shame if they are closed or left without care. Our parks are well used and appreciated by the community of Seattle. The Conservatory is a very special part of the parks system where plants are not only displayed but also cultivated by expert gardeners. The age and archetecture of the structure is irreplaceable and to let it go would be tragic.
I work on Capitol Hill and live in the Seward Park neighborhood. I have walked Seward Park daily for some years and each day it is still interesting and beautiful and ever changing. It is a part of my life style as well as that of my neighbors. Everyone is feeling the downturn in the economy and the parks remain an affordable pleasure we all can still access and enjoy. The parks need to be respected and protected by our elected officials who make these decisions. The cuts over the past few years to park employees and now the prospect of closing the parks are just not acceptable. |
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April 08, 2010
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Please keep the conservatory open
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I often go here for quiet in our busy city, and take tourists, godchildren and friends to see this gem on the hill. We often go eat in the neighborhood afterwards, spending money in local places. This jewel brings me out of West Seattle to spend my time and money as I show natives and visitors alike this gorgeous antique of a quiet space. I sure hope they continue to fund this rare jewel of a place.
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April 26, 2010
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Conservatories
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I absolutely agree with you. Pockets parks are nothing much special. Infact, instead of making such pocket parks, i would suggest the conservatories at home.
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April 27, 2010
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Parks maintenance
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The parks maintenance crews are well compensated, much more than the private sector. It simply isn't sustainable when the economy is in a recession.
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Volunteering
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Wouldn't it be possible to start a community volunteer program to help
keep each of the parks; especially Volunteer Park with the Conservatory, up and running if the budget cuts actually happen. I don't live in the city of Seattle, but I would gladly volunteer my time to maintain the gardens and the Conservatory, at Volunteer Park. Each park in Seattle could start their own volunteer program to keep each neighborhood park a place for people to go, and looking well and maintained through this time of financial upheaval. |
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July 01, 2010
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Looks as if the Conservatory will be spared. However, they have a robust volunteer program in place. If you're interested, go to their website and contact them about volunteer opportunities.
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