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06/01/10 10:45 AM
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Grey Gallery joins trend of Capitol Hill bars getting landlord's boot -- but this time, lounge happy to go
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Grey's been good to Pike/Pine
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I'm disappointed to hear that Grey will be losing its lease. Places like Grey and Vermillion, among others, that bring life back to historic buildings, give Pike/Pine a distinctiveness and vitality that other neighborhoods lack. No news here, but it's often the older buildings that are better equipped to rent out spaces to more interesting commercial tenants, though owning an historic building does have its own unique challenges, among them paying for seismic upgrades that make them "earthquake-proof". That this building's rent is skyrocketing makes me wonder what the future has in store for other spaces on 11th Ave.
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June 01, 2010
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very disappointing
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Grey adds a unique flavor to the neighborhood and makes for a fun and convenient hopping from Vermillion to Barca to Grey to Purr. I'm sorry to see it leave that space.
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June 01, 2010
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Raising rent
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So here we are in the middle of a recession and the property owners want to raise rents. "and the Bush legacy marches on".
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June 01, 2010
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RE: Raising rent
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What exactly does Bush have to do with this? Is he the landlord?
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June 01, 2010
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RE: Raising rent
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What? Are landlords immune to the recession? Methinks they're the ones hurting the most.
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Small Business Owner
June 01, 2010
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RE: Raising rent
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"Methinks they're the ones hurting the most."
Pricing their tenants out is a great way to not go under. |
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June 02, 2010
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Move a block west?
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There's an interesting space available next to Rancho Bravo, across from Oddfellows/Eliott Bay Books/Everyday Music. I think BMW used it for storing cars before they moved out of the area. I keep eyeing it hoping something vibrant and local pops up in there.
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June 01, 2010
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RE: Move a block west?
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That makes two of us. That building definitely seems like one of the next obvious spots in the neighborhood for an exciting new tenant that can build on the momentum generated by Elliott Bay, Every Day Music, Oddfellows, and the upcoming Holly Smith brewpub at Pike Street. Additionally, from having peeked through the windows, the building's interior at least appears to be in excellent condition and a prime space for an occupant.
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June 01, 2010
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RE: Move a block west?
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I've wondered about this space, too and why it hasn't rented in the local boom economy going on in this neighborhood...high rent? or, maybe it's in bad shape and/or expensive to remodel? I don't think it has sprinklers, and that is an expensive proposition for new business owners of restaurants, bar, clubs and entertainment venues. But, it's a cool space for someone with the money to remodel it.
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June 01, 2010
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sad news
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Grey's current space has a very special place in my heart (I got married there in March) so it's going to be incredibly sad to see them leave. That said, Erik is extremely talented and dedicated to his gallery, so I'm optimistic that Grey #2 will be just as awesome.
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June 01, 2010
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Huge Expense to Move
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It is such a huge expense for a small business to move and rebuild in a new space. Our small group uses Grey Gallery often as a place to throw parties for our clients, meet friends and generally use it as a jumping off point for our evening. I'm sadden to see Grey move but am really surprised that the landlord is not doing more to retain a fixture like Grey in their building. Tenants add stability in a changing market and I would assume majority of landlords would do what is needed to keep their folks. Tis the best strategy when thinking long term for ones building. It doesn't take much in this city for other perspective tenants to know that they might be going into a space that is unable to retain their tenants. Interesting....
I wish the best of luck to Grey and know we will follow them to their new location. |
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June 01, 2010
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Capitol Hill, rally behind your local businesses
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It has been a remarkable feat of business, not to mention community, for Grey Gallery and Lounge to have been open - and attempting to sell art - solely for the 2.5 worst years of our economic lifetime. Grey has developed and implemented (quite beautifully) a sustainable business model for art and conversation in our neighborhood, and has served an invaluable role to the Capitol Hill community of creatives, professionals, and friends and neighbors in general. The fact that a business like that has to then face insurmountable challenges resulting from a poor building owner/landlord relationship is an embarrassment to the neighborhood culture. You'd be surprised at how much power these people have by law and how helpless small businesses and commercial tenants are, even in a city that prides itself on creating and fostering diverse and vibrant neighborhoods of locally owned operations. Shameful.
As ChaviH said, this move will come as a huge expense to one of few small businesses keeping its head above water at a time when it's most painful. I too will follow Grey to its next location, and hope the neighborhood will rally to make it even better and more successful than ever. |
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June 01, 2010
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RE: Capitol Hill, rally behind your local businesses
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Boo hoo! If the business model was "sustainable," as you say, the business would have no problem meeting the rent increase.
Let's face it: Building-owners don't want vacant spaces any more than we do. But to get anything resembling an ROI -- and you can Google that acronym, if it's new to you -- they've got to make difficult choices to ensure they keep up a property's upkeep, don't default on their loans, put food on their family's table, etc. Sometimes, that means raising rents to keep pace with the cost of living (which is in no way decreasing, my friend). Unfortunately, it's often the landlords who dish out concession after concession to tenants that end up being the sleaziest, sorry to say. And as a 43-year Capitol Hill resident, what really can we do to *rally* behind a local business we like? Patronize it? Buy drinks there? Sure. But unless a savvy-enough professional is running that business, my efforts will just throw more hard-earned paychecks into a pit of squashed dreams. At least it would be fun while it lasts, but whatever. Bring on the Chipotle franchise. |
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June 01, 2010
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RE: Capitol Hill, rally behind your local businesses
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Doesn't a sustainable business need to stay in business to be "sustainable?"
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"Boo hoo! If the business model was "sustainable," as you say, the business would have no problem meeting the rent increase."
Have you ever had to plan finances in your life? A sudden spike in rent for anyone can create the need for a move, no matter how "sustainable" their work is. I don't know why you're so snotty, especially when you're completely ungrounded on this issue. |
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June 02, 2010
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RE: Capitol Hill, rally behind your local businesses
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"Have you ever had to plan finances in your life?"
I'm not sure what about my post led you to this conclusion, but I'm fairly certain you didn't read past the first line. This is not a "bad landlord hates amazing tenant" issue, or at least, we have no proof that it is. Galleries come and go, even the ones with loft spaces and decent drinks. Let's face it: In many cases, a "sustainable" retail operation owns its space and has other stakes in the fire to maintain liquidity should its operations not meet expectations. That's a pipe dream for many, sure. It's sad that someone's dream is squashed, but certainly, no property owners/managers are out there to remove "sustainable" businesses from their holdings in the worst U.S. commercial real estate environment of all time. I hope the Grey Gallery finds another space at which it can be profitable and save for unforeseen circumstances (though in this environment, a rent increase does not qualify as unforeseen ... ). |
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RE: Capitol Hill, rally behind your local businesses
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"though in this environment, a rent increase does not qualify as unforeseen ..."
Raising rent on a regular basis and to a fair market value is certainly standard procedure, but nothing about this situation sounds standard. Read the press release above. To have your lease pulled out from under you because the building owner evicts your landlord, then demands rent increases ranging from 50%-85%...sounds like some serious BS to me, especially as the man states above that he has no one to fill the space and hasn't rented a spot in that building in 2-3 years. If he "[doesn't] know what the environment is" what in God's name informed his decision to drive the rent up so astronomically? I agree with Sean. And I agree that Grey has done an impressive job of developing and sustaining an arts business. Even the major players in the Seattle gallery scene are hurting, because no one is buying art right now. The estimable, 13 year old Howard House just announced it's closing, and it sounds like Lawrimore is on his way out, too. It's a bleak sector these days, but Grey kept it afloat with a guaranteed revenue stream: BOOZE. Every time I've been there, there has been a decent crowd, cocktails in hand. |
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June 02, 2010
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Full Press Release is on SLOG
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June 01, 2010
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Strange
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It will likely take months before the building owner finds a new tenant who will come close to his asking price, and many years before he before he recoups the months of lost rent from Grey. Unless Grey's lease was ridiculously cheap, it's hard to see this as a money-driven decision. The owner must have wanted Grey out for some reason.
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June 01, 2010
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RE: Strange
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Greed/desperation does funny things to a person's common sense.
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