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03/29/11 05:00 AM
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03/28/11 09:10 PM
UW student architects model a glimpse of Broadway light rail development future
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March 29, 2011
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exciting to see...
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Thanks for posting these! It's great to see some specific thinking about re-development of one of the blocks above the station. The students were focused on providing affordable housing, and they only looked at the one block from Denny to John. If we can find a storefront, the Champion will put them out for display on Broadway. We have recently completed a series of workshops led by the City to create an Urban Design Framework for the Sound Transit sites. A draft will be released to the public at the the beginning of May - the month of May will be for public comment, including a public open house on a Saturday morning - place and date TBA. The Urban Design Framework will guide Sound Transit's Request for Qualifications process to select developers for the site
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March 29, 2011
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RE: exciting to see...
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The Joule has space, or how about the mezzanine at the Broadway Market, that way we can see all sides of the models.
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March 29, 2011
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ArtSpace?
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I think that artspace won the Mt Baker station RFQ/RFP.
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March 29, 2011
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Yes, Artspace did win it and are moving forward. The link that jseattle gave is to a ULI ideas competition. Not related at all to the actual Sound Transit RFP.
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March 29, 2011
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Sky bridges are not pedestrian or community oriented. They remove pedestrians from street level atmosphere. Isolation is anti-urban. Please no buildings with sky bridges (apartments included).
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oiseau
March 29, 2011
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RE: sky bridges?
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Sky bridges look cool, but you've got a point there.
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March 29, 2011
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The bridges in that design are actual filled with studio apartments. They're not intended to get pedestrians off the plaza, but to increase the density and give the plaza more of a square, feeling, instead of linear.
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March 29, 2011
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RE: sky bridges?
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These particular sky bridges are designed as single room occupancy for transitional homeless housing - giving the recently housed great south light in which to feel more human! Generally, don't like sky bridges such as the one at the Convention Center - However, this block will have a huge open space in the middle of it due to Sound Transit's desire not to build on top of the station box. This space requires a high level of activation to be successful. So consider some possibilities such as cantilevers/sky bridge housing/canopies/arcades as ways to provide sheltered open space on rainy days... Also consider sky bridges and cantilevers as ways of increasing the residential density/developable square footage on the sites so we can increase the community benefits -such as affordable housing and civic/cultural space and affordable retail, - and as means to more interesting architecture
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March 29, 2011
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RE: sky bridges?
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I assume they put in the skybridges because they can't build on top of the station "box" (as ST calls it), where Nagle Place/farmer's market is planned. I actually thought it was an interesting way to make up for the lost development opportunity there. But yeah, in general, I'm not a big skybridge fan either.
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March 29, 2011
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Development Designs
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Great to see some ideas, but no comment in the text about the STATION itself, where it is, how one gets into it. Is not the station as designed a fixed element? If so, should not these designs reflect the reality of the station (which in my opinion is poorly planned, or designed with no hint of future context). I think using air rights to include bridging elements is a great idea used in moderation. One of the requests for a outdoor market is that it be covered---maybe a bridging element could give that protection.
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March 29, 2011
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RE: Development Designs
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There is a shopping mall in Scottsdale,AZ that has a retractable glass roof over much of the common space. Something like this would be an interesting idea to explore for the market space, and make the space more usable more days of the year.
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March 29, 2011
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RE: Development Designs
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Some sort of glass roof would be cool, especially since the plaza will get southern sun exposure. So the roof could provide rain protection without blocking a lot of direct sunlight.
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March 30, 2011
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nice job students!
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I attended many of the community meetings/charettes and I can see where some of the students have listened/done their homework and included a few of the desired design and programming features discussed by the community- a process often ignored by contemporary design professionals. Very nice work and at a high level of output for undergraduate students. Good job!
...wish I could say the same for STrans who chose to take the above ground design of the stations to completion before developing schematics for the remaining TOD. oy, way to be a "sore thumb"... |
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March 29, 2011
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The single most important issue to be addressed in this redesign is how to convince ST/Seattle pundits that the half block of Denny running through the ST site should be permanently closed to car traffic. Doing that would open up many more possibilities for the space, and keep away the stream of extra cars through Denny that will pile up to avoid the intersection of B'way and E. John; this feature would also promote pedestrian safety during the influx of walkers to the park after every link train empties out. But good luck getting people to eliminate even one half block of road!
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March 31, 2011
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RE: get rid of the Denny thoroughfare
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I think given the overwhelming neighborhood desire for it, after six years of closure getting all or most of the cars off that block of Denny will be very easy. It's just a street vacation, and SDOT is developing "festival street" regs now that would probably apply there.
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April 04, 2011
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Enclosing the plaza
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I agree with the point made about sky bridges. They really remove the density from the streets where you need it. However, I don't think that is the case here.
I do like the idea of enclosing the plaza. I'm not sure that I like the idea of studio apartments bridging the gap. And is that legal? I know Steven Holl does this in China, but he adds a pool! My point: either find a different way to enclose the plaza (an iconic building at either side of the plaza could have the same effect) or go all out!! Studio apartments just sounds like a quick excuse. You should have a community center, single family condos, or a sports center with a climbing wall. Make your gestures large and meaningful. We'll let you know when it's too much. Good luck! -- Seattle Architects Coates Design specializes in green building and sustainable design. |
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March 31, 2011
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Dated
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These architectural styles are already so dated and really neglect the public realm. More poor modernist designs. Sigh.
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April 01, 2011
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RE: Dated
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Dated? What would you prefer? If it neglects you must clearly say how it does so.
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April 21, 2011
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It's an entire block. It's no busier than what it would replace. Broadway is not SLU and shouldn't convert to a one-building-per-block form.