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Capitol Hill Community Post | SDOT John and Thomas Corridor Crossing Improvements

nsf_map-JohnThomas_Broadway23rd_20170302b-01From SDOT

We’re excited to let you know that the John and Thomas Corridor Crossing Improvements project, located on Capitol Hill, was among 12 projects selected in late 2016 by the Levy to Move Seattle Oversight Committee for funding through the Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT) Neighborhood Street Fund (NSF) program. The NSF program funds projects requested by the community.

The 2015 voter-approved Levy to Move Seattle includes $24 million to continue the NSF program over a nine-year period. Learn more about the program: www.seattle.gov/transportation/nsf.htm

John and Thomas Corridor Crossing Improvements
This project will improve the safety and visibility of people walking and biking at intersections without traffic signals along the John Street and Thomas Street corridor.

We will install new curb and bus bulbs, new and improved ADA-accessible curb ramps, and pedestrian crossing beacons. We are working in conjunction with King Country Metro Transit to adjust the location of two bus stops before we construct the new bulbs.

Visit the project website to view the early design concept:
www.seattle.gov/transportation/NSFJohnThomasCorridor.htm

This is the first phase of outreach and we’d like to hear from you! Email us by April 20 to let us know:

  • What do you like about the design concept shown on our website? Do you have any concerns?
  • What else do you want the design team to know about these locations?

 

Stay Involved!

This project is being designed in 2017, with construction scheduled for 2018. We’re committed to keeping you informed throughout the life of the project. We’ll keep you engaged as design progresses and stay in touch throughout the year.

 

Visit the project’s webpage at www.seattle.gov/transportation/NSFJohnThomasCorridor.htm

to learn more.

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Timmy73
Timmy73
6 years ago

I’m excited to hear this but disappointed in the lengthy timeline. Why does it take a year to design curb bulbs?

I was hoping for something sooner at 10th & John and 16th & Thomas. At least pull parking back further from the intersection for better pedestrian sight lines.

Dub
Dub
6 years ago
Reply to  Timmy73

I can’t speak to this situation specifically, but SDOT talked at the council transportation committee meeting today about limitations on how much existing labor is available to complete even minor street improvements. It’s a big city, there are lots of projects, and the money doesn’t all come in at once. But, yes, I wish it were sooner, too!

Andrew Taylor
Andrew Taylor
6 years ago

” Why does it take a year to design curb bulbs?” Can change drainage, need to move drains, utilities…..

“I was hoping for something sooner”
The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine. https://www.bookbrowse.com/expressions/detail/index.cfm/expression_number/332/the-mills-of-the-gods-grind-slowly-but-they-grind-exceeding-fine

Timmy73
Timmy73
6 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Taylor

Painting pavement and installing plastic bollards (which is what most of the curb bulbs in the project entail) do not require the movement of drains and utilities.

Cement curb bulbs also not not require the relocation of utility lines.

ScottH
ScottH
6 years ago

Is there any research on how effective these crossing beacons are? I’m sure they’re cheaper than actual traffic signals, but I wonder if they might actually increase the likelihood of collisions by confusing drivers and/or giving a false sense of security to pedestrians. Drivers naturally look above the street in front of them for red and yellow lights; distracting them with tiny flashing lights along their peripheral vision can be very confusing. I have seen this device used along a greenway in Ballard and also by VM on Seneca. It never seems to work very well. I would rather the city not do anything than do something on the cheap just to say they’ve done something.