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Two Times stories to follow-up on: jet noise reduction, mayor candidates vs. streetcar


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Two recent Seattle Times stories warrant CHS follow-ups. We’ll be looking into both of these soon. In the meantime, let’s jump in.

  • Alaska Air tests fuel-saving landing procedure
    Part of life on Capitol Hill is jet noise. Sometimes, you don’t notice it. Sometimes, it seems like that jumbo jet is about to land on Broadway. The Times recently reported on a new effort to change the way planes land at the airport that could mean a big change in the jet noise we hear on the Hill and in neighborhoods across Seattle:

The new procedure, dubbed Optimized Profile Descent by the airline industry and its regulators, is a measure that uses high technology satellite-guided navigation, the power of computerized aircraft flight management computers with the oversight of the FAA to change the decades-old procedures for bringing aircraft from cruising altitude to a landing on the runway.

Times says that part of the new system currently being tested by Alaska Airlines would include a big change in the way Sea-Tac handles queuing its incoming jetliners by turning much of the process over to computers:


By the airline’s calculations, 750,000 people in the Puget Sound area would hear less aircraft noise each year.

The benefit would come from more precise timing of arrivals in the airport vicinity.

What happens now, when multiple planes arrive in the Puget Sound area to land at roughly the same time, controllers extend the queue of planes lined up to land farther northward or southward depending on what direction the wind is blowing at the time.

When the line is long and planes are landing to the south, aircraft approaching from the south or west fly above Puget Sound northward, say as far as Lynnwood, before turning southward and joining the line of planes headed toward Sea-Tac runways. The same principle applies when landings are to the north with the line for landing extending well south of the airport.

Under a well-coordinated OPD system, aircraft would be instructed to slow down at cruise altitude where their fuel efficiency is at a maximum and noise reaching the ground is at a minimum to avoid reaching the area at the same time.

With the opening of Sea-Tac’s third runway late in 2008, incoming air traffic over the Capitol Hill area follows two main channels: the newest path around 12th Ave (red) and the long-term path along 19th Ave (green)


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According to the Times, the Hill could start to hear a reduction in jet noise as early as next year as Alaska Airlines puts the new process into action. But the public feedback is just starting and other neighborhoods that might be adversely affected by the change are already taking notice. CHS is looking into what is coming next on the public process front and what you can do to get behind a plan that will truly bring quieter skies to the Hill.

  • Mayor candidates oppose 1st Avenue streetcar
    The Times notes that both Joe Mallahan and Mike McGinn oppose construction of a streetcar through Belltown and downtown as part of the plan mayor Greg Nickels pushed to replace the Viaduct. But Mallahan has also targeted the Capitol Hill/First Hill streetcar line:

Mallahan added that he would study and maybe oppose Sound Transit’s future streetcar across First Hill and Capitol Hill — even though it’s funded by last fall’s voter-approved Proposition 1. The line is Sound Transit’s consolation prize to one of the state’s most populated neighborhoods, after rising costs forced the transit board to cancel a First Hill light-rail station promised to voters back in 1996.

We’ll definitely have to dig into this. Standing up against the line would be a pretty bold move given that the project is being paid for by Sound Transit, not the city, and that community groups are already busy advocating for where the line should be built, not whether it should be built at all.

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Mike with curls
Mike with curls
14 years ago

It is amateur night in the old City for the mayor’s office. Neither of the two candidates has any real knowledge of much.

It is not possible to oppose the C. Hills streetcar. It is paid for and voted upon by voters in the city as part of the bond package for Sound Transit.

Yes, indeed, get both up to speed, ain’t going to be easy, they lack a decade of interest and experience on a spectrum of civic issues. Mallahan most likely did not vote in the bond election … hmmmmmm.

And Mc Ginn in fixated on the waterfront …hmmmmmmmm.

Geez, oh geez.

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14 years ago

And all of this points to an improvement over the outgoing mayor.

And we don’t have to deal with Ed Murray.

Phil Mocek
14 years ago

The McGinn campaign tweeted that Mallahan wants to cancel the First Hill streetcar and that McGinn supports this fully-funded voter-approved project.

AJ
AJ
14 years ago

…opposing improvements to the streetscape of First Avenue with a higher capacity connection between Uptown and King Street Station, part of a multi-pronged upgrade in scale and capacity to our current transit system in an area that is underserved and practically unnoticed and would be served excellently by having a human scaled transit option like they have in Portland where it helped increase the vibrance of its served neighborhood?

How regressive! Let’s unpave the Counterbalance while we’re at it.

Mike with curls
Mike with curls
14 years ago

Well, many of us think we will wish for parts of the old days … the council will take power, roll the new mayor, Burgess and Conlin and Licta will run the city. Tom will moderate, and Sally will keep on looking for total agreement among her council peers.

And why don’t you like Ed? He has a distinguished political career, the best of any Oly rep. from Seattle by far, oh, there is something he did in the past decade you didn’t like, thus, he scored 99 per cent.

Tragic lack of long term leadership, I see.

Mike with curls
Mike with curls
14 years ago

It would make good pasture for the coming sheep and goats, thus, creating a part of the in City home grown food supply. Conlin will like the idea.

And hell, What does Queen Anne mean to the city … not hip at all. And biking up that hill is good for you…

And don’t tell the City Greens to advocate to restore the Denny Regrade to its natural state … god, I should keep my mouth shut.

Kelly Monroe
Kelly Monroe
14 years ago

This is another example where it seems Mallahan has a poor grip on Seattle finances. He opposes streetcars in general, even those paid for by Sound Transit & approved of by the voters.

At a Seattle Transit Blog meeting I’m pretty sure McGinn said he supports the First Hill/Capitol Hill streetcar as it is already funded and approved of.

Kelly Monroe
Kelly Monroe
14 years ago

A Mallahan quote from the PI, “…Mayor Nickels has been off building toy streetcars that are redundant to, and cost more to operate than, buses, and pursuing an agenda that emphasizes glitz and glamour over delivering basic services.”

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/175788.as

Mike with curls
Mike with curls
14 years ago

Objective observations … Mc Ginn = plus one …

Mallahan one strike. Many pitches to go.

I have always preferred street cars … just do. I take so called slut all the time and light rail. City glamour? Something.

Phil Mocek
14 years ago

So is this just poor reporting on the Times’ part, or has McGinn contradicted himself?

Mike Lindblom wrote:

Seattle mayoral candidates Joe Mallahan and Mike McGinn both said in recent interviews that they oppose a streetcar on First Avenue — a 2.5-mile line that outgoing Mayor Greg Nickels included in last winter’s agreement to build a highway tunnel, Sodo interchange, seawall, promenade and related items for $4.2 billion.

[…]

McGinn said the first priority is to protect Metro bus service from recession-related service cuts, not build a streetcar.

Phil Mocek
14 years ago

So is this just poor reporting on the Times’ part, or has McGinn contradicted himself?

Mike Lindblom wrote:

Seattle mayoral candidates Joe Mallahan and Mike McGinn both said in recent interviews that they oppose a streetcar on First Avenue — a 2.5-mile line that outgoing Mayor Greg Nickels included in last winter’s agreement to build a highway tunnel, Sodo interchange, seawall, promenade and related items for $4.2 billion.

[…]

McGinn said the first priority is to protect Metro bus service from recession-related service cuts, not build a streetcar.

dang
dang
14 years ago

Phil – you’re confusing the streetcar lines being referenced. Kelly is referring to McGinn’s support of the First Hill streetcar, while the Lindblom piece you cite refers to the First Avenue streetcar. No contradiction.

Phil Mocek
14 years ago

Thanks. My mistake.

dang
dang
14 years ago

Yep. McGinn is looking to use the funds allocated in the preliminary budget to the First Avenue streetcar to bolster bus service (increase service levels and purchase new buses). The Seattle Transit Blog has a comparison of McGinn’s proposal here. A few problems/questions that this plan raises for me. One, Metro is talking service cuts to cover their budget shortfall, which means no real service increases? Metro is also raiding their bus replacement fund, again to cover their budget shortfall. And, there is no long term measure to cover operation and maintenance costs of the improved bus service as proposed. So in essence, and perhaps overly simplified and cynical on my part, McGinn’s plan sacrifices long term infrastructural improvement to bail out Metro in the short term. Instead, we will get a more costly addition to our transit system (bus maintenance and more operator wages) that will be vulnerable to the next Metro budget crisis.

AJ
AJ
14 years ago

Mallahan is a business man, he should know about scalable technologies.

What he’s doing is trying to play the frugal miser, saying “I saved you money up front, we’re good” even though at some point you MUST upgrade a transit corridor. Buses are excellent up to a point, but you need to increase capacity. At some point the answer isn’t “get more buckets”, it’s “get bigger buckets”.

He’s not that great a business man, is he? If he manages to fool the electorate, he’s out in one term.

jseattle
jseattle
14 years ago

Just got this e-mail from McGinn folks:
A major difference has emerged in the mayors race. Joe Mallahan has said he may oppose the First Hill Streetcar. Michael McGinn will be hosting a press conference at First Hill Park Tuesday morning to call on Mallahan to reconsider his position.

WHEN: Tuesday, September 8th, 11:00 AM
WHERE: First Hill Park on the corner of University St and Minor Ave

AGH
AGH
14 years ago

Hi All,
We need to stand up for this streetcar line. It will be a huge asset to our neighborhoods!
It is on the agenda for the September 15th City Council Transportation Committee meeting at 9:00am at City Hall.

We have to turn out and show out support!