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Design review: 8-story mixed-use at 12th and Fir

Plans for a new 8-story mixed-use building at 12th and Fir will come before the Central Area Design Review Board Thursday night.

The proposal from developers Kamiak with designs by Hybrid and Hewitt would create an 8-story, 127-unit apartment building with street level retail above a 42-space underground parking garage.

119 12th Ave

Design Review Early Design Guidance for an 8-story, 127-unit apartment building with retail. Parking for 42 vehicles proposed.

 

View Design Proposal  (22 MB)    

Review Meeting
May 26, 2022 5:00 PM

Meeting: https://bit.ly/Mtg3038915

Listen Line: 206-207-1700 Passcode: 2490 368 8671
Comment Sign Up: https://bit.ly/Comment3038915
Review Phase
EDG–Early Design Guidance
Project Number

Planner
Irving Chu

The project will mean the demolition of a remaining cluster of smaller houses and residential buildings at the corner including two 1905-built houses.

The review comes as the city has begun stakeholder meetings to produce recommendations for changing its design review process to be more efficient and address economic and equity issues.

 

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oliveoyl
oliveoyl
1 year ago

totally get the need for more housing – but a bldg full of open one bedrooms (studios) next to a bunch of buildings w essentially the same, seems off to me. Shouldn’t there be a greater variety in apartment sizes for a more dynamic neighborhood, especially given how close an elementary school is + easy transit access?

Little Saigon Resident
Little Saigon Resident
1 year ago
Reply to  oliveoyl

The person building this has decided this is what they want to do. Why do entitled Seattle people feel like their personal opinions should dictate what someone does with their property?

If you want larger apartments feel free to start a business and make them.

Adam
Adam
1 year ago

Love it. So much density going in on / near 12th Ave. Really wish there was a transit option that ran north – south along it from Little Saigon to Volunteer Park.

PeeDee
PeeDee
1 year ago
Reply to  Adam

Oh god I know. Like, for example, if there was a 12th Ave street car line…but one can dream.

Adam
Adam
1 year ago
Reply to  PeeDee

Imagine if it ran from Volunteer Park (northern stop in front of the conservatory) to Jefferson Park in Beacon Hill…

Little Saigon Resident
Little Saigon Resident
1 year ago
Reply to  Adam

The 60? Or is there some joke I’m missing?

Adam
Adam
1 year ago

The 60 doesn’t continue up 12th. It goes into First Hill and then Broadway.

Caphiller
Caphiller
1 year ago
Reply to  Adam

Good point – it’s crazy there is no bus on 12th.

CableGuy
CableGuy
1 year ago

Don’t you just love all the utility poles and overhead wires they included in that rendering?

Let the light in
Let the light in
1 year ago

Wow, in NYC that design would not meet its modern building codes, it blocks too much of the sunlight from the surrounding buildings.

C_Kathes
C_Kathes
1 year ago

The absence of sunlight shouldn’t be a deal-breaker. North-facing units never get any sunlight, no matter how good the design. I don’t get any where I live, and I’m not complaining. Sure, it would be nice to have once in a while, but there are advantages to not having it, such as cooler indoor temps in summer. In most cases it just seems to me like one more bad-faith obstruction tactic by people who simply don’t want any more high-density housing, period.

nic-p
nic-p
1 year ago

Those are new regulations (relatively). Much of NYC wouldn’t have been allowed to be built if those zoning regulations had existed at the time most of the neighborhoods were constructed. NYC would have looked more like LA then the current city. Same goes for SF. There’s plenty of suburb in Seattle for those that like low density sprawl with sunlight. Urban cores need to be dense.

Let the light in
Let the light in
1 year ago
Reply to  nic-p

Yes, Seattle should take no lessons that have been learned from other cities who made the mistake of letting builders squeeze every penny they can from a square foot of land.
If you think that NYC could ever look like LA, you haven’t spent any time in both cities. You should look at a map and spend a moment reflecting on the geography of both cities.
It wasn’t the builders who decided that sunlight and fresh air needed to be considered/required/mandated by law, it was the people who ended living in buildings.
Seattle had spent decades in urban design for building out modern sewage/storm system, investing in light rail, and upgrading its other utilities, for what is now an environmental disaster in the making.
Seattle is taking 30% of the water from the output of our local aquifer; Seattle stop being net positive for power consumption a few years ago ( and peak power usage for Seattle is in the winter, not the summer, so Solar is not that much of an option for our area ). Instead of building a modern sewage processing system, we are building a big hole in the ground that will do nothing for us as the population grows in buildings which leave no land where ground recharge will happen ( Portland should be given some credit for actually tackling its sewage issues a decade or so ago ).

John M Feit
1 year ago

This is a solid project by one of the Seattle’s better development teams. It warrants our full support.

Bruce Nourish
Bruce Nourish
1 year ago

Hell yeah! More housing. Let’s build this all over the city. Upzone everywhere.

Frank
Frank
1 year ago

So once this gets approved, it can be replicated all over the city, right?