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Video shows East Precinct officers back down after bystanders step in over heavy response to Capitol Hill ‘shots fired’ 911 calls

Reports of gunfire and yelling in the street Wednesday night near 12th and Mercer led to a tense situation with East Precinct officers taking aim on an unarmed person in crisis before deciding to retreat from the scene when a crowd of bystanders gathered.

The quickly formed and instantly tense standoff is an example of how fast a police response to a 911 report involving a gun can escalate and also shows how perceptions of police in a standoff situation have shifted after repeated incidents like the killing of Tyre Nichols.

Video of Wednesday’s incident sent to CHS after it was recorded around 7 PM at 11th and Mercer shows four minutes of the short standoff as police took their position up the dark street and one officer aimed his rifle, commanding the upset subject to drop any weapon and get on the ground. The confusing scene continued with police yelling commands as concerned bystanders told the officers to back off.

“We’re much more scared of the fucking police in this situation than this guy,” one person yells. “Can you guys fucking calm down? Calm the fuck down.”

According to East Precinct radio updates, police had been dispatched to the area after a 911 caller reported a gunshot and a second caller reported two shots along with somebody yelling, “Everybody is going to die.”

But people at the scene told police there was no shooting and no gun — only a young person in a yellow sweater upset and suffering a crisis.

“Having just had a pretty close look at him, I hadn’t seen a gun, and he and I both yelled at the police that he didn’t have any gun,” the witness who recorded the video tells CHS. “A woman across the street echoed our statement. I was scared of being caught in police gunfire and moved to the side and started filming, as did several other bystanders.”

According to radio updates, officers at the scene reported bystanders were “actively hindering” their response and asked for permission to back down.

“We’re going to go ahead and disengage,” one officer says, confirming the response found no victim and no shell casings in the area, only “20 bystanders with four surrounding the suspect.”

As the person in the yellow sweater sat down and put his hands in the air, police began to leave the scene.

“The cops eventually decided he wasn’t a threat or wasn’t worth the bad publicity and left,” the witness who contacted CHS said. “There were three police cars and at least four officers on scene. I was told by one witness afterwards that the precipitating incident had been the victim slapping the stop sign on the corner, the victim told me he had gotten in an argument and went outside to cool off. He was listening to music on a bluetooth speaker, which is what the cops perceived to be a gun. He was terrified and sobbing when it was all over.”

CHS has asked SPD for more information on the incident and their response.

UPDATE: Here is the report on the incident provided by SPD —

Police responded to 12th Avenue East and East Mercer Street after multiple callers reported hearing shots fired. One of the callers described a possible suspect walking away, and officers spotted him nearby. Believing him to be possibly armed, police attempted to detain the subject by giving him verbal commands at a distance. The man ignored commands. As police were giving the man commands, multiple community members encircled the subject and attempted to obstruct officers’ paths to approach the man while filming the incident. Despite police informing citizens the man may be armed, the community members continued to interfere and became increasingly hostile. Based on the number of community members becoming involved and their unwillingness to comply with officers’ commands, it became clear there was no safe means to detain the subject without unnecessarily endangering everyone that was now involved. Unable to investigate further, officers disengaged and left the area. Police found no evidence of a shooting at the original scene and no gunshot wound victims were reported.

 

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Hillery
Hillery
1 year ago

But if the suspect hurt someone then it would be why didn’t the police do anything

Nah bruh
Nah bruh
1 year ago
Reply to  Hillery

Oh fuck off with your what about-ism.

JonParker
JonParker
1 year ago
Reply to  Nah bruh

That’s…not whataboutism at all

HarpoMarxist
HarpoMarxist
1 year ago
Reply to  Hillery

Do anything about what?

Neighbor
Neighbor
1 year ago
Reply to  Hillery

Exactly. Plus we’ll also never know if there was a gun at the scene, after multiple calls of shots fired, because the police couldn’t search the scene.

Ken
Ken
1 year ago
Reply to  Neighbor

There was 1 call.
There were no shots fired according to the people on the scene.
There were no victims.

Drake
Drake
1 year ago
Reply to  Neighbor

It appears they couldn’t search the scene without a kill first… SMH

Neighbor2
Neighbor2
1 year ago
Reply to  Neighbor

Just because someone calls 9-1-1 and reports “gunfire” doesn’t mean there was any gun. Lots of noises can sound like gunfire. People make mistakes. For the police to come in guns blazing unnecessarily and threateningly escalates what might be a complete non-issue.

If you’re really worried about guns being so prevalent, revisit the 2nd amendment, realize that individuals with guns are not a “well-regulated militia”, and have proper gun control.

ZydrateGirl
ZydrateGirl
1 year ago
Reply to  Neighbor

In Michigan the other day, there were multiple calls to police throughout the state reporting active shooters at several K-12 schools.

Every single one was a hoax.

Just because someone says something was happening, doesn’t mean it was happening.

There was absolutely no reason for these officers to point a high powered rifle at a dude in front of his own house when he was clearly communicating to them that he was scared to walk towards them, and instead chose to lay on the ground with his hands up.

He was on the phone with his mom because he genuinely believed he was going to be murdered by police that night. That is heartbreaking.

There is also absolutely no reason that guns are their first response as opposed to a last resort.

Racism is rampant in this country, and I absolutely stand behind what this community did for this young man.

kevin paul
kevin paul
1 year ago
Reply to  Neighbor

Many people report gunfire as sounding like firecrackers. Bystanders said he slapped a stop sign.

Jerry
Jerry
1 year ago
Reply to  Hillery

You just can’t make a random person a suspect and claim they have a gun or weapon and point a GUN at them!

Nic
Nic
1 year ago

If ordinary citizens can see that this person is unarmed and not an immediate threat, why is it so hard for TRAINED PROFESSIONALS to also make this determination and deescalate. Pointing a rifle at a person in crisis is a terrible idea and should be a very last resort. How terrifying to have someone ready to kill you!

Thank goodness people were willing to risk involvement and bring a sense of sanity to the situation. Sheesh. Definitely need to improve deescalation and standard responses by police. This could have been another tragedy.

acab
acab
1 year ago
Reply to  Nic

because the cops want to kill people. they aren’t here to protect anyone but themselves

Neighbor
Neighbor
1 year ago
Reply to  Nic

Did ordinary citizens get him to lift up his sweatshirt? Show his waistband r the back of his pants? Search the area around him? No? Then you don’t know there was no gun. What you do know is that there were multiple calls of shots fired.

Ken
Ken
1 year ago
Reply to  Neighbor

You don’t know there WAS a gun.
You don’t know if shots were fired.
You just want to keep licking boots as you bow to your master

Get Real
Get Real
1 year ago
Reply to  Neighbor

they told him to drop his weapon when he had his phone in his hands.

Christine
Christine
1 year ago
Reply to  Nic

Why do you immediately believe an angry mob? Maybe some of the people in that neighborhood would rather not live with this type of dysfunction. I feel bad for those of you who think this is normal. It’s not.

No one special
No one special
1 year ago
Reply to  Nic

Because the trained to see everything and everyone as a threat. I would also hazard a guess that very few officers are taught or are willing to de-escalate a situation. Most often officers escalate, and rapidly, any given situation.

Police are in a no win situation. If they leave and someone is hurt they get bombarded with blame, insist on escalating and investigate the situation? Well, they get bombarded with grief too.

Neighbor2
Neighbor2
1 year ago
Reply to  No one special

You said it yourself: they don’t de-escalate, but rapidly escalate, seeing everything first as a threat.

This isn’t a no-win paradox. This is bad culture, bad training, and bad command. These are choices that can be changed. This isn’t fate.

ltfd
ltfd
1 year ago

Citizen dummies interfering with law enforcement responding to “shots fired”. What a bunch of idiots.

chres
chres
1 year ago
Reply to  ltfd

Citizens that knew that the man had no weapon and that there had been no gun shots potentially saved a life. Stop licking boots.

Mickey
Mickey
1 year ago
Reply to  chres

They also did the cops a favor. If it went bad the cops would be fired and in prison.

Learn to read the whole article
Learn to read the whole article
1 year ago
Reply to  ltfd

Didn’t read the whole story, huh? STFU, then. They said they found no evidence of anyone having a gun or of a gun being fired other than someone calling them to report stuff that didn’t happen. Those citizens likely saved that person’s life.

Falcon
Falcon
1 year ago
Reply to  ltfd

Were there shots fired though? No. So, your point isn’t as solid as you think it is.

Neighbor2
Neighbor2
1 year ago
Reply to  ltfd

Exactly, “shots fired”. A possibly unreliable report from a source of unknown trustworthiness. There might have been a gun, but there might not have. To de-escalate and actually investigate would have been a better move.

JerSeattle
JerSeattle
1 year ago

So terrifying for both sides. The challenge is that OBVIOUSLY this suspect was unarmed. There has to be a way that we can fund mental health negotiators that can de-escalate this and not let “lets get the guns out and go after the suspect” as the first line of action.

When suspects are under extreme stress from a situation like this their behavior could erratic. Not because they want to hurt the police or other citizens but because they’ve seen the news and seen police kill suspects without a second thought.

There has to be a point where police with mental health negotiators can de-escalate situations like this. I had so much anxiety for that poor kid. It would be a very surreal situation to find yourself as a brown man facing the barrel of a white police officer in the dark.

The citizens that stepped in played the part of a key role our police response units need, mental health negotiators.

There has to be outreach to communities of color. There has to be a way to keep streets safe for all citizens. And there has to be ways to not end up in a situation like this where a minority is facing the rifle of a white police officer due to a “shots fired” call.

I want so much for our society to figure this out. We can’t have citizens running rampant over the law but we can’t have the law running rampant over the citizens. We need to find that happy medium.

Police work is very stressful and very unpredictable. Having worked with police when I was in my eagle scouts I got to experience the stress they face as they deal with one random citizen to another. After lots of experiences you get a sense of situations and such too. But sometimes you get false positives. We need to more delicate in these situations. If suspect has a gun then we need to deal with that keeping the suspect safe, police safe and citizens safe. If the suspect doesn’t have a gun. We need to deal with it keeping the suspect safe, police safe and citizens safe.

We really do need more funding for the police and a mental health response unit that shadows every responding police call. AND give those responding mental health units the ability to force the police to put their arms down in situations like this one. Regardless of what the police actually want to do.

One Solid Gold Object in Form of a Rooster
One Solid Gold Object in Form of a Rooster
1 year ago
Reply to  JerSeattle

The current Seattle municipal budget allocates $802 million for public safety and SPD is getting $375 million of that, how much more money do you want them to get

F*ck Fascists
F*ck Fascists
1 year ago

They love licking boot so all of it.

Learn to read the whole article
Learn to read the whole article
1 year ago

How about LESS money for them, and MORE money for mental health trauma responders? Because you can’t talk someone down while simultaneously pointing a gun at them.

x.g.
x.g.
1 year ago

I think you miss the point entirely, as do all of the pro-cop chest thumpers here.

Unless you know:
a) where and how that money gets spent
AND
b) the costs to CHANGE the way SPD functions, to reflect the way so many want the department to evolve, be eliminated and replaced or otherwise re-done
AND
c) the actual needs to restore safety and reduce the massive uptick in crime (because there IS a massive uptick that harms everyone)
how can you be so quick to shoot down the assertion that more money, not less is needed to overhaul public safety in Seattle?

Clearly, like many in this city who want to hijack the discussion, you are ignorant about many, many spaces of this issue. Or, you just don’t care to be logical?

Can we dispense with all of the dogmatic and righteous know-it-all (when you don’t) tone, everyone?

x.g.
x.g.
1 year ago

To be clear, for my part, the police screwed up here and policing is broken. However, we need all of us to remember they are ALL humans.

I am glad the community got involved in a crap situation. It seems clear that better training and procedures are needed and this is yet another example of how SPD needs to spend more money on more mental health officers so that guns don’t come out when they aren’t warranted.

Being a cop isn’t easy. Being in a city where the entire system is broken, from cops to courts and an out-of-touch (if well-intentioned) city council sucks. We are all fed up and on edge. However, pitchfork-like mobs on EITHER side is no solution.

Everettian
Everettian
1 year ago
Reply to  x.g.

No. The cops were *trained* to create escalatory situations in order to pad their records. If you knew what was being taught in police academies across the country, you would be appalled.

The entire policing institution is corrupt, broken, and a failure.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  JerSeattle

As you say, “If suspect has a gun then we need to deal with that keeping the suspect safe, police safe and citizens safe.” I agree with all this. The problem is that the police have consistently shown that if there is a gun or they think there is a gun or sometimes even a knife, they will not even try to keep the suspect safe. They have shown over and over that they value their own lives more than anyone else’s. When they change their behavior, well, then I’ll give a crap about how dangerous their job supposedly is.

Glenn
Glenn
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Who doesn’t value their own life more than anyone else’s? Is that the standard we expect Officers to meet? Sounds like an unrealistic expectation to me. I’d like them to value everyone’s life, but I want them to preference the general public when it might be placed in danger by someone else. In this case Officers were responding to a report of shots fired and encountered an individual “in crisis.” Before they could do their jobs they were driven from the scene by well meaning people who somehow determined this person was unarmed and presented no threat to anyone. Personally, I’d prefer the responding Officers make that determination, but many here disagree. I mean, is it not ok to call 911 when you here shots fired?

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Glenn

There are many occupations that have a higher than average death rate, and “we” justify that as a society because they, on average, get paid more. Statisticians actually exploit this phenomena along with other information to get an estimate of a “statistical value of life” to assign dollar amounts to lives saved from policies. Choosing to be a police officer is a risky job that by definition requires a lot of self sacrifice, they should know what they signed up for. It also helps that it pays relatively well… Working as a sanitation worker typically pays less and is more hazardous, not to mention the social stigma versus the glorification of policing.

“Police” should be nimble and capable enough to handle this type of crisis issue with more tact, regardless of the situation they encounter. This also highlights the downfall of reactive responses to mental health and poverty versus preventative. We’re experiencing decades of neglect in public spending and a draining of the public commons in an all out bid towards privatization of everything.

Glenn
Glenn
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt

Well that was a mouthful.

James
James
1 year ago
Reply to  Glenn

No, police should not value their own life more than anyone else’s. Sure, you and I do. We are not paid, given special equipment and given special privileges to protect the public. They are. You’d like them to protect the general public more than someone who could put them in danger? Fine. But they don’t. They protect themselves.

And for everyone saying he might have had a gun, well, hate to break it to you, but this is America, and that’s not a crime — unless a cop “feels threatened,” in which case it’s a capital offense.

Neighbor2
Neighbor2
1 year ago
Reply to  JerSeattle

If this suspect was “OBVIOUSLY” (your words) unarmed, why is this “terrifying for both sides”? To be sure it must have been terrifying for the unarmed man, to be suddenly accosted by a bevy of aggressive, shouting, armed police. Not sure how police, with all the power on their side, have much business being “terrified”. If they are terrified they should find different employment.

ColumbiaChris
ColumbiaChris
1 year ago

Absolutely more of this, please. The cops are a danger to everyone.

JonParker
JonParker
1 year ago
Reply to  ColumbiaChris

Don’t be so emotional. Police save way more lives than they do harm bodies

Everettian
Everettian
1 year ago
Reply to  JonParker

Um. The police are currently the leading cause of homicides by firearm in the United States this year. This is not a joke.

Glenn
Glenn
1 year ago
Reply to  Everettian

Do you have a source for this statement?

Let's talk
Let's talk
1 year ago
Reply to  Glenn

For Everettian and anyone else interested in facts and stats
Note: The hatred I see for the police I find alarming. They should all go through the academy and get a real life feel for it and note I acknowledge issues with law enforcement, I see more alarming issues with the general populace.
 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (24,292), while 43% were murders (19,384), The remaining gun deaths were unintentional (535), involved law enforcement (611) or had undetermined circumstances (400).

zach
zach
1 year ago
Reply to  Everettian

You are just plain wrong. By far, the majority of homicides involve citizens, not police.

Neighbor
Neighbor
1 year ago
Reply to  ColumbiaChris

And citizens alone did SO well with “We keep us safe” when Antonio Mays and his 14 year old friend were literally executed by citizens who laughed about doing it, showing off his dying body and the blood on their clothes, all on livestream? I’ll take the cops over those neighbors any day.

ygkfht
ygkfht
1 year ago

All men benefit from the actions of violent men. Policing is a profitable business.

Gino
Gino
1 year ago

Obviously, whoever called the police shouldn’t have, but if you see the police as killers why are you standing in front of the armed with rifles response with your dog? And why were so many cars allowed to drive through a static and potentially extremely dangerous situation? Just because you don’t like the police doesn’t give you the right to endanger your life and theirs by escalating the situation and taunting the cops.
Had this gone down in the early 90’s, there would have been a very different outcome. Probably multiple arrests and charges for interfering, the kid would have been taken down and tazed. Chill out Justice warriors, let police attempt to do their jobs. They didn’t randomly roll up on this, Simone in the neighborhood called and reported a person with a gun. They did what they are supposed to do. No one was hurt. Hopefully you can all focus your energy on helping the angry kid. And stop wasting police time with bullshit. There’s a lot of actual dangerous things going on in this city that need attention.

Riqui
Riqui
1 year ago

Did the crowd assist the person in crisis after the police left? Or was this the same kind of cop-hating performance we’ve grown accustomed to with the our local larpers?

Boo
Boo
1 year ago
Reply to  Riqui

They stayed and talked with him for a while, at the top of their voices, making us wish they’d move on. Finally all was quiet again.

Ralph mac Donald
Ralph mac Donald
1 year ago

Amazing. Shots fired is no reason for the police to be involved. I’d rather have a crazy person firing a gun running around than have police trying to protect people. Even if a few innocent people get killed its still not worth having police being called.

Neighbor
Neighbor
1 year ago

Tell me you’re joking.

Everettian
Everettian
1 year ago
Reply to  Neighbor

Sarcasm, it seems. But let’s be real: Cops by and large have become just as untrustworthy as your average gangster with a gun shoved in their pants. Perhaps even less, at times.

The police have repeatedly doubled down on their reactive behavior rather than conducting any kind of self-introspection and self-improvement. This is the problem.

Boo
Boo
1 year ago

This is the most insane thing I’ve read. “Shots fired is no reason for the police to be involved”? What the hell is then?

“Even if a few innocent people get killed its still not worth having police being called”? Fine, then you can break the news to those innocents’ loved ones about their deaths.

Caphiller
Caphiller
1 year ago
Reply to  Boo

Calm down, it’s trolling

Luke
Luke
1 year ago
Reply to  Caphiller

it’s not trolling it’s sarcasm

Let's talk
Let's talk
1 year ago

So who called in the shots fired? Obviously they thought someone had fired a gun and called the police. That is the only information the police have when they show up to a scene. From there they have to make an assessment of the situation. Witnesses can help in a situation like this and no one was hurt. This shows that de-escalation works, the police trusted the witnesses and stood down. I agree it would be nice to have caseworkers at every scene but there aren’t a lot of caseworkers willing to put their lives on the line in situations like this.

zach
zach
1 year ago
Reply to  Let's talk

Agree. Lost in this discussion is the fact that the police did their job and made the wise decision to not escalate the situation further. Give them some credit, cop-haters.

Boo
Boo
1 year ago
Reply to  Let's talk

Yes, no one seems to grasp that. The police were told shots were fired. They operated on that report.

We watched from a window. There was no way to tell if that man had a gun or other weapon. He could easily have had one in his waistband.

Decline Of Western Civilization
Decline Of Western Civilization
1 year ago

Reason #29384 to not call the police.

Where’s the balance?
Where’s the balance?
1 year ago

I understand the need for less aggressive police response, and I don’t know the details of this specific situation. But I have to say, reading this as someone who was literally just physically attacked by a black man in crisis wielding a weapon that morning in that neighborhood, it gives me chills to think that I called 911 but if the guy ditched his weapon before the cops showed up, a crowd could have stopped the cops from arresting the guy. This guy was screaming that he was going to kill me while chasing me with a metal pipe, and I saw him grab another woman’s ass. I’m sure he’s going to harm someone else and that terrifies me.

Bob
Bob
1 year ago

So people called police to respond to shots fired and then people are surprised that police responded to shots fired call with firearms. Marxists are funny…

chres
chres
1 year ago
Reply to  Bob

Yes, every single one of those people called the police about shots fired then got in their way.

Come on, try harder.

Tom
Tom
1 year ago
Reply to  Bob

If police is called to a mental hospital, then all the patients will be killed and conservatives will have no problem with it.

Crow
Crow
1 year ago

Hate cops? Try calling an anarchist next time you need help.

Derek
Derek
1 year ago
Reply to  Crow

They are way more likely to help you than cops lol

Everettian
Everettian
1 year ago
Reply to  Derek

Especially since they build robust mutual-aid networks as a freakin’ hobby! They’re far more inclined to help people in need than most conservatives in times of crisis.

Case in point, wildfires in Oregon a couple years back: You had righty-tighty loonies creating checkpoints out of a LEVEL 3 EVACUATION ZONE (which means GET OUT NOW) chasing down baseless rumors of “antifa firestarters”.

At the same time, “Antifa” mutual aid networks were busy helping evacuees with food, water, blankets, N95 masks, getting connected with temporary housing, and so on.

It speaks volumes.

Paul
Paul
1 year ago

Who ya gonna call? Ghost Busters?!

Calvin
Calvin
1 year ago

I mean… All people below who complain about police, I hear you and I agree with you.

Can you tell SPD to not support your district so they can come patrolling my areas more? We both get what we want.

Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  Calvin

Better yet create a way to submit their address and phone# to the City so Police will be required to never respond to their 911 call.

SeekingTruth
SeekingTruth
1 year ago

Racist white folks pontificating here. It ain’t white folks being shot in Seattle predominantly. It is people of color being shot by other people of color while racist a weigh in on this blog from their relative safety. And it is not cops doing the shooting and killing. Google it.

I want our cops back. And I’d prefer if many of you left the city you, not them, have helped ruin. And the lives back that you, not them helped snuff out.

https://www.seattle.gov/documents/Departments/Police/Reports/2021_SPD_CRIME_REPORT_FINAL.pdf

Derek
Derek
1 year ago
Reply to  SeekingTruth

Cops aint ever left. This is…false information

Everettian
Everettian
1 year ago
Reply to  Derek

Technically they did leave. They moved to the suburbs, and started commuting to Seattle. :V I mean, didn’t Carmen Best have a house in Snohomish?

Christine
Christine
1 year ago

Let everyone who wants to live like this form their own lawless state. Far away from the rest of us.

Everettian
Everettian
1 year ago
Reply to  Christine

I think we would have a better sense of what kind of police officers we’d want in this “lawless state”, people who are trained to understand other people, rather than operate in their own bubble of reality like SPD does.

Seriously dude, bugger off.

MadCap
MadCap
1 year ago

How has no one mentioned the fact that “and a second caller reported two shots along with somebody yelling, “Everybody is going to die.”” That suggests that the police were responding to a possible mass shooting incident, and if I heard someone fire 2 shots and yell “Everybody is going to die” that would also cross my mind…it’s such a surprise Seattle has such a hard time finding and keeping more police officers.

chres
chres
1 year ago
Reply to  MadCap

Good God, y’all twisting yourselves to lick police boots.

They showed up because they thought there was a shooter, they found a man with no gun and a community of people saying that wasn’t what happened. You’re acting like they were trying to beat the cops up.

Derek
Derek
1 year ago

DEFUND NOW!

Chris Ladd
Chris Ladd
1 year ago

You hear the assault-rifle-carrying cop say “Walter, not now.” in response to the young man’s brother commenting on what happened. Walter had just started aggressively toward the brother. I interpreted ‘not now” as you can’t harass him now in front of all these people. They will be back though and fabricate a reason for a violent arrest.

Chris Ladd
Chris Ladd
1 year ago

I’m grateful for the white people who protected and possibly saved this young man’s life. The sad truth we all know is that if they were all black people doing the same, the trigger happy assault-rfile-carrying cop would have sprayed them with bullets and claimed he feared for his life.

Roadcase
Roadcase
1 year ago

So much ignorance i these comments it is astounding.
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Police responded to 12th Avenue East and East Mercer Street after multiple callers reported hearing shots fired. One of the callers described a possible suspect walking away, and officers spotted him nearby. Believing him to be possibly armed, police attempted to detain the subject by giving him verbal commands at a distance. The man ignored commands. As police were giving the man commands, multiple community members encircled the subject and attempted to obstruct officers’ paths to approach the man while filming the incident. Despite police informing citizens the man may be armed, the community members continued to interfere and became increasingly hostile. Based on the number of community members becoming involved and their unwillingness to comply with officers’ commands, it became clear there was no safe means to detain the subject without unnecessarily endangering everyone that was now involved. Unable to investigate further, officers disengaged and left the area. Police found no evidence of a shooting at the original scene and no gunshot wound victims were reported.

kevin paul
kevin paul
1 year ago

“..without endangering everyone involved.
What about the cars passing right in front of officers with their guns drawn? How many guns do you need? Could one officer go and stop traffic? Where is their de-escalation training being expressed? This reinforces perceptions some have and has changed my already poor to worse.