
The following are based on incident reports from the Seattle Police Department’s East Precinct . They are based on the officers’ accounts of the events described.
At 11 minutes past midnight on September 11, a man called 911 to report that an assault had taken place near the corner of 11th Avenue and East Pike Street. Officers arrived to find a man in his mid-30s being treated by paramedics. The man was noticeably intoxicated. He was missing the top of a front tooth and officers thought a part of his upper lip had been ripped off. At first he was hesitant to tell officers what had happened, but he eventually told them that he was crossing East Pike Street when a car driving westbound failed to stop for him at a crosswalk. The man then pounded his fist on the car, which prompted the car to stop. The vehicle’s passenger got out of the car, walked up to the man and punched him in the face. The man got back in the car and the car sped away. A witness told a similar version, adding that the victim walked into the intersection very suddenly. Officers searched the area for the car without success. The victim was taken to Harborview Medical Center for additional treatment.
At 5:19 p.m. on September 10 officers responded to a 23rd Avenue convenience store after the store’s owner reported that a disturbance was taking place inside. As they approached the store they were flagged down by a man and a woman. The pair identified themselves as customers and told police the dispute began after the store owner acted rudely to them. The store owner, and a witness, said that the couple created the situation when, after becoming upset with the store’s prices they started arguing with the owner. The witness said the owner was threatened that someone would come to the store and beat him up. He requested the pair be trespassed from the store, and officers concurred. The pair, a man in his late 30s and a woman in her early 40s, were issued trespass admonishment cards. When they refused to sign them, the were escorted by officers away from the store.
Also on September 10, at 10:20 a.m., officers responded to the 15th Avenue East QFC after a store employee reported a shoplifting incident. He’d seen a man in his mid-20s walk through the store taking numerous items from the shelves and putting them in his backpack. He then tried to leave the store but was stopped by the employee, who snatched the backpack back. The backpack was left behind and the shoplifter ran away in an unknown direction. Officers searched the area for him without success. The employee told officers he pulled out roughly $310 worth of items from the backpack.
And again on September 10, this time at 10:34 a.m., officers responded the Seattle Academy’s main building on 12th Avenue and East Union Street. The call regarded a man in his mid-20s who appeared to be watching high school girls walk in and out of the school. His stood on the sidewalk starting at girls for about 45 minutes. His behavior intimidated staff and students at the school. The man was confronted by a school official and asked to leave. When the man said he just wanted to lay down police were called. They spoke with the man in a nearby alley. He provided ID, which was checked and cleared of warrants. He was very slow answering questions, kept pacing back and forth in the alley and acted very confused. When asked if he was ever arrested, he said he was, a year ago, for walking down the street naked. As he had no criminal history in Seattle, officers thought the incident might have occurred in another city. When asked if he had any mental issues he said he did not. Officers issued a trespass admonishment card prohibiting him from being in the area for one year. He signed the paperwork, said he understood the terms and walked away from the scene.
WTF? re: 9/10 at 10:34 at the Seattle Academy… “His behavior intimidated staff and students…” What does this mean? You let a strange man stare at little girls and no one said or did anything because they were “intimidated?” If I had a kid in that school,they would be pulled as of last week.
Seattle Academy is right in the middle of the 12 Ave corridor, lots of folks go by there and their property abuts city sidewalks – kinda difficult to keep the weirdos at bay. At least one school official confronted the man as per the report, so it’s not like no one said or did anything, and better yet, someone decided to call the police who ID’d the loon and moved him along. Although not a pleasant thought to have some probable wacko leering at young students, the response seemed to be appropriate.
Justin, what is a “trespass admonishment”?
Lrlopez74, you’re being overdramatic. High school girls are hardly little girls. They’re zero to three years from being adults. Someone can’t be much more “big girl” than that.
Some guy stood in a public place (a sidewalk) watching the public in broad daylight at mid-morning. People at a nearby school felt intimidated by his standing there (no threats or otherwise intimidating behavior is described), so they asked him to leave the public place. He said he’d rather lay down. The police came, convinced him to present documentation of his identity (likely by acting as if he was required to do so even though he was not), verified that he wasn’t wanted for unrelated reasons, and somehow convinced him to answer questions he didn’t have to answer.
Then, there was the issuance of this “trespass admonishment”. What was that? Can you trespass on public property?
The guy was probably creepy, but in this country, our legal system doesn’t punish people for creeping other people out. We can be as creepy as we want as long as we don’t violate the law. If he had threatened anyone, he would very likely been charged with assault, so it seems likely that he did not threaten anyone. What did he do wrong other than being a weirdo on the street?
This man probably does have mental problems. We used to keep people like that in state institutions, but we quit doing that about 25 years ago and now we have to deal with them on our streets. When you see somebody like this staring at you on the sidewalks, just think of all the tax money you’re saving by not paying for all those state mental hospitals. It’s an unfortunate situation, but throwing the book at this guy is not a reasonable response.
Oops — I addressed a question in my previous comment (which is still held for moderation at this time) to Justin, but this was written by Doug.
Phil “It always HAS to be the police’s fault” Mocek
Person who won’t put a name or even a pseudonym behind his words: there’s been no discussion of fault, here. Would you care to comment on the topic at hand? Did this man violate any law? Did he do anything wrong other than making people uncomfortable by standing on the sidewalk?
–Phil We-should-ensure-that-our-police-operate-legally-and-ethically Mocek