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01/31/12 10:23 PM
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New Capitol Hill clubs should have you dancing by spring, ultra lounging by summer
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The Battle of the Mega Bars
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This should be very interesting.
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Michael Strangeways
3 months ago
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RE: The Battle of the Mega Bars
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Word on the street is that Q's owner (Scott Smith) is a just a grumpy old geezer with a toxic ego and questionable grasp on what's actually fly in the club world.
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3 months ago
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RE: The Battle of the Mega Bars
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That's why is uppity, new-york-is-the-kewlest-place-evarrr partner will come in handy.
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hahaha
3 months ago
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Gay ... or straight? they'll have to pay their rent ...
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Ambitious projects, wish them all the luck. I am a bit doubtful there is enough of a gay crowd to fill them regularly ... which may mean that after trying to appeal to the gay crowd for a while, they may convert to straight bars and try to attract the Belltown or Pioneer Square party crowd up here, as those crowds may have sufficient numbers and spending income to meet the monthly bills of these clubs. Just something to keep in mind ... I wonder how two major dance clubs that cater to the Belltown and Pioneer Square stratight party crowd would blend with the Capitol Hill crowds late on Friday and Saturday evenings?
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3 months ago
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RE: Gay ... or straight? they'll have to pay their rent ...
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I have my doubts about the viability of the Social. CC's in their new location nearby has already seemed to fizzle somewhat, and non-existing parking is a lot of the culprit. Now introduce a new club into the mix and put even greater demands on non-existent parking. You can wish all you want but everyone won't take cabs to the place. If you don't live close enough to walk, you really think twice about screwing with that parking ordeal.
Q is only a little better. Another club on Broadway squeezed between Pike & Pine seems like so much packing 10 lbs of shit into a 5 lb bag. |
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3 months ago
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Gay ... or straight? they'll have to pay their rent ...
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Or, Mr/Ms. Skeptical, what will happens is that Q, along with all the other new and thriving nightlife businesses in the Pike/Pine corridor will achieve a tipping point for the neighborhood and the nabe will become such a popular destination for entertainment that people won't mind the parking situation. And by mind I mean "PAYING FOR PARKING THAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE IN HUGE FUCKING QUANTITIES."
Here's a hint: Harvard Market just across the street from Q charges 5 bucks and has a huge multi-hundred space garage. Then there's the lot just two doors down from Q near Union. There's parking next to Blockbuster on Broadway for three bucks after hours and there's the huge lot on Harvard and Pike with four levels of always open parking that anyone who's not so cheap that they can't afford five dollars for the entire night can easily afford. It's five dollars people! That's less than the price of a draft beer in most of these places fer fucks sake! I think the key isn't so much that parking is lacking -- its that people are too damn cheap to want to spend a few shekels to park their cars. And really now, if you're too cheap to park your car, why would these businesses want you as patrons? That will change once clubs like Q and The Social open and expand the Hill as a nightlife destination that didn't exist before. Because face it folks, the days of Neighbours (a club that hasn't renovated or improved itself on behalf of its customers since it opened just before the Civil War) and the Cuff (ditto -- also a bar that charges more to admit women than men AND GETS AWAY WITH IT!) being... read more e only games on The Hill is rapidly growing to a close. And if the price to enjoy something much better than what we've been stuck with for the last 30 years in the form of Neighbours and The Cuff -- something that these deeply awful established throwback clubs that insultingly don't give a rats ass about their patrons -- is the price of ponying up five bucks to park . . . . . . . well then, sign me the fuck up! Because paying five bucks for parking is a small price to pay IMO. |
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RE: Gay ... or straight? they'll have to pay their rent ...
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The Cuff charges more than $5 for women, which is what my (male) friends and I pay? As I recall there's even a sign on the little podium where you enter that says $5. How much do women pay?
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3 months ago
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RE: Gay ... or straight? they'll have to pay their rent ...
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I still like my gay bars gay, the influx of the little black dress is highly annoying. Charge em double.
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RE: Gay ... or straight? they'll have to pay their rent ...
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Overreact much, Rich? Take a fucking shill-pill, oh I guess you already are/did.
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3 months ago
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RE: Gay ... or straight? they'll have to pay their rent ...
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The Cuff has not charged extra for woman in quit a while.
To clarify the extra amount at the door.. It was only done on the 3rd Saturdays as it was an "event" night called "Mens Night" in conjunction with "Gear Night". It was clearly advertised in their marketing as a fetish night for men. Cover was $5 for men not wearing LURE (Leather, Uniform, Rubber, Ect.), $15 for women not in LURE. Anyone woman or man in LURE with a Gear Pass available at Dog House Leathers was in for free. This was clearly stated in their website, social media marketing, flyers and posters. There are predominant heterosexual clubs downtown where men would pay an upwards of $30 while women were free. The Cuff gave a greater opportunity by offering free cover to any gender dressed in LURE for their LURE themed event. I personally don't see any issue with that. It’s also nice going into a "Men’s" Levi bar and not having a lot of woman attending and mocking guys in the club for what they wear or at the fetish demo’s put on. The cover was added to detour women that was doing just that during gear night events. Gay clubs do attract women as many feel it’s a safe space to not get hit as much as other bars but the mocking of men and women in LURE in a men for men establishment is plain disrespectful. I also see our newer generation of gay men no longer needing to have a club or space to escape some of the homophobia that other older men attending did up until the late 90’s and even today. More and more gay men in their 20’s are bringing their female friends into gay men’s establishments without realizing... read more e importance to some of their older brothers having a M4M space to escape and be free to be themselves. Gay establishments were originally created for just reason to escape. Our older brothers and sisters fought hard so that we could have safe places to be ourselves without worry or fret. Let’s try and remember to respect and honor the traditions of different establishments created for LGBT and the men and woman who helped us along the way. Just about any bar will have a written or unspoken mission or theme to their club for many reasons, but mostly sharing common ground with other patron. I’m not encouraging segregation in clubs, but try to honor what establishments theme, mission and purpose is. Most importantly though, go out, be safe, meet new people and have fun. I’m excited to see new venues opening and even more excited that we live in a society that can have above ground, openly gay and lesbian bars without the fear of what our brothers and sister had to endure to get us where we are at today.. |
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RE: Gay ... or straight? they'll have to pay their rent ...
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I don't think the issue is the price of parking. The issue is having to drive home drunk if you don't take a cab. And I think these businesses would rather have a club full of people drinking, rather than a place full of designated drivers.
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When did 'The Cuff' become a gay bar?
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I've always thought that 'The Cuff' was a cop bar due to the name and its proximity to the SPD Cap Hill precinct.
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RE: When did 'The Cuff' become a gay bar?
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were your parents brother and sister?
the Cuff has ALWAYS been a gay bar. it opened as a leather/men's bar. Now they're fighting the influx of vagina like every other bar that 20 something bimbos think they need to get into. |
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RE: When did 'The Cuff' become a gay bar?
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Don't feed the trolls.
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RE: When did 'The Cuff' become a gay bar?
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I love you Ernest.
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RE: The Battle of the Mega Bars
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Can't say I like anything about Q's interior design thus far....way too much Tomorrowland-meets-Albert Speer iciness. I'd send BCJ back to the drawing board on this one, tout de suite.
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More venues for Gay AND Lesbian (and B & T)
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I'm disappointed at the vag-hate on this thread. The first letter in LGBT (re The Social, "Our focus is to provide a well designed, fun, and high quality venue for the LGBT community") stands for Lesbian. There are some vags in little-black-dresses who do NOT want the attention of the Belltown / Pioneer square crowd and are tired of the crowd at Wildrose.
Personally, I'd be very excited to have a new Gay AND Lesbian friendly venue in our neighborhood. As long as the Gay AND Lesbian clientele are friendly. :) |
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RE: More venues for Gay AND Lesbian (and B & T)
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I don't think what you're seeing is referring to lesbians. I'd say most gay men are pretty OK w/ lesbians in their bars. These comments are assuming the little-black-dress crowd that infests the Cuff or Neighbors is generally Belltown/Pioneer Square/Eastside straight girls-- which I think is actually pretty true. Any many are brought in by their 20-something twinkie gay friends. They do get really annoying. That's not to say there are no femme lesbians that wear little black dresses.
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RE: More venues for Gay AND Lesbian (and B & T)
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That's exactly what I was thinking when I read this thread. I like to look good when I go out dancing. I want a place where I feel safe, too. I was hoping, as Jim S stated, that they were referring to the straight, party, frat-boy loving crowd.
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Small concern
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Maybe it's too late, but is there anything we can do to stop these places from happening? Just a thought.
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